Episode Notes
TV presenter, journalist and mum-of-one Phoebe Burgess knows motherhood can be as exhausting as it is incredible. 
This week, she opens up about parenting in the public eye and shares the heartbreaking moment she knew she had to ask for help.
Plus, why is it still so hard to talk about addiction? Thousands of Australian families are dealing with the pain of alcohol and drug addiction, Courtney Rothberg's family is one of them. 
Courtney opens up to us about discovering her husband's ice addiction and their journey to overcome it together. 
Your hosts are Mel Wilson and Cassie Hamer with special guest Giles Hardie and our huge thanks to Phoebe Burgess and Courtney. 
This podcast was produced by Sinead Barrett and Nina Young.
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