Many people have made assumptions about our next two guests. Zainab Syed is a performance poet from Pakistan, she wears a headscarf so people assume she’s a refugee or hardship and that her work should reflect this. But her story is one of privilege. We’ll talk to her about “Changing the Narrative” - how do you change the stereotypes or assumptions made about artists of colour. We also meet Kevin Bathman whose work about the inter-marriages of Indian and Chinese couples in south-east Asia doesn’t fit easily into most boxes.